The End of Days
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Our Guests
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B.A. (Philosophy), Univ of MN
M.Div. Yale Divinity School
Ph.D. Princeton Theological Seminary
Senior Pastor - Woodland Hills Church (1992-present)
President/Founder - Reknew Ministries
Adjunct Professor - Northern Seminary (2017-present)
Professor of Theology - Bethel University (1987 - 2004)
Author/CoAuthor of 23 books
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Cameron McKenzie is the lead pastor at Fort Garry EMC in Winnipeg, Manitoba.
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Cyndy Warkentin is the pastor of Saturday Night Church in Landmark, Manitoba.
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After studies at Fresno Pacific University, Mennonite Brethren Bible College, University of Manitoba (BA Hons), and Harvard University Divinity School (MDiv, ThD), Tom served as hospital and prison chaplain in Winnipeg, as well as pastor in Thompson, MB, and Boston, MA. He served on the MCCanada Christian Formation Council and is presently chair of the Faith and Life Commission of the Mennonite World Conference. His teaching and preaching have taken him beyond North America to Europe, Asia, and Africa. Tom is author numerous articles, both popular and scholarly, as well as books such as Guilt and Humanness: The Significance of Guilt for the Humanization of the Judicial-Correctional System, 1982; Put on the Armour of God! The Divine Warrior from Isaiah to Ephesian, 1997; Ephesians (Believers Church Bible Commentary), 2002); Christus ist unser Friede: Die Kirche und ihr Ruf zu Wehrlosigkeit und Widerstand, 2007; Recovering Jesus: the Witness of the New Testament, 2007; and Killing Enmity: Violence and the New Testament, 2011. Tom and his wife Rebecca are members of First Mennonite Church, Kitchener, ON.
Links and Resources
Books
The Crucifixion of the Warrior God, Greg Boyd
Killing Enmity, by Dr. Thomas Yoder Neufeld
Music
First Communion, Dane Joneshill
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Weary of Earth, Myself and Sin, Red Mountain Church
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Notable Quotes
What does our perspective on eternity have to do with loving our enemies?
Creation is unfolding in a way that coheres with God's redemptive work and God's ultimate purpose to bring creation back to the good that he initially declared in creation at the beginning. It's so easy to fall into the trap of thinking that what we interpret God to be doing in the world, and our place in that, is actually synonymous with what God is doing in the world and our place in that. And it's not. ~Cameron McKenzie
I think that the eschatological perspective, God is taking the world somewhere, should give us great pause for just humility and that even when we begin naming enemies, we don't know. What we do know is that all people have been created as God's image. ~Cameron McKenzie
God is on God's side. Full stop. We want to put people on sides, and we want to decide whose side God is on… And God's going “I'm on my own side. And I will decide what's happening.” And so, we need to pause and go, “Am I enacting my own will? Am I actually enacting God's will, or am I, in doing this am I actually fighting God?” Another place you don't really want to be in your Christian life. ~Cameron McKenzie
We know that in heaven there isn't going to be strife and there's not going to be war and there's not going to be anger and hate and killing, and so we're supposed to already be modelling that now, at this time, in our lives. And so how we're living now matters in the light of eternity because of that. ~Cyndy Warkentin
Where, when, what are the signs of the Kingdom coming? The Kingdom of God is in your midst, it's squishing up between your toes. That means that what we're waiting for is here, now, so seek first the Kingdom and its justice and its peculiar form of divine logic, which is a restorative justice. ~Dr. Thomas Yoder Neufeld
I love the phrase you are a kind of colony of the future in the present. Well, how do you live as a colony of the future unless you live that future already? ~Dr. Thomas Yoder Neufeld
We dare not let our hope in Christ's full appearing and God's fixing creation in a final way, undo our own passion and energy to see justice and peace and love take hold in the lives of people. ~Dr. Thomas Yoder Neufeld
So, the more real the afterlife, the glorious Kingdom that God has in store for us, the more real that is, the more I'm willing to sacrifice this life, and that is the attitude of the New Testament. ~Dr. Greg Boyd
That's the mindset that we're supposed to have. There's a great joy that lies ahead of us, but there's suffering on the way to getting there, and we've got to be willing to embrace that suffering for the joy that's set before us. ~Dr. Greg Boyd
The emphasis of this is that God is in control, that he is good, that Jesus has won a victory, and it's going to be fully realized. And it's going to be realized in the redemption of all creation and the bringing back of the world. And the bringing back of his children to the way we were always intended to be in a sort of garden of Eden reflection as we go back to a garden with God and spend time in that intimate relationship. ~Jesse Penner
It's also something that gives me a tremendous hope. But it's also something that leaves me with what I might call a holy discontent, because in the world that we find ourselves in, there's so much brokenness and so much messiness and so much pain and suffering and sorrows. It's clearly not the type of Eden that we read about in Genesis. And it's clearly not a heavenly place that we, you know, are hoping to go to. But we know that God is taking us somewhere and that God is going to be redeeming all of creation and redeeming the world. That we are going somewhere good. ~Kevin Wiebe
